Kirk wrote: i for one find it very disturbing someone who post on this board with everyone on that list and acts like your helping everyone - when actually your stabbing them in the back with quotes like this and dont try and be a statesman and say you werent talking about anyone on that list because you would have thoughtfully mentioned there name when posting your ebay auction - i really wish you would stop the tony little sales pitches and the whole ( my latest masterpiece ) or useing innovative describing your own work and speaking of your work
Jin Saotome wrote: Of course you won't see the recipies on my EBay auctions, or anything promoting other customizers, fwooshers, or such. You'll notice I didn't add an auto-link to Joe Acevedo's site either. I want to sell MY customs, not yours! I take it you've never been to any kind of marketing class or such, right Kirk? Again, I don't need anyone to tell me whether or not my customs are awesome or my methods innovative. People pay top dollar for them. I never have any complaints. Therefore I will promote my customs as 'awesome' or 'the best so-n-so' like with my Steel Claws because I believe they are. Obviously other people do to, and many speak with dollars, not with praises. That pays the bills, finances my figures that love so much, and allows me to eat out every Saturday.
I answer HUNDREDS of emails on a weekly/monthly basis. So many of them ask me 'how come my paint don't stick?' I tell them to wash their figures. They reply back, 'that worked! AMG!' and all is well. Sometimes they're using poster paint or enamels, then I have to tell them it's the type of paint. Should I remain silent, or play it humble like I don't know everything? Heaven's no! I'm damn sure of my self, it's called self confidence, and many people forget just what that is on a daily basis. If something works for me time and time again, I pass the knowledge on to others. I'm confident about it. If your paint always sticks, great! If you've never washed a figure ever, great! You can skip that washing step with no harm done. I'm sure LOTS of those figures I've customized didn't need to be washed, and probably wouldn't of given me any trouble. But ya know what? I like to do a professional job, so if something works, I repeat it a step. Open figure, trim flashing, wash figure, etc. I don't want to take chances, especially since it's other people who end up with 90% of my customs.
Now, I'm cool about all this controvery over my methods. Kirk can remain suspicious of me, people can still view me as having a god complex, but I won't be changing a thing. You'll still get the same tips from me, the same banter, the same EBay auctions. In fact when I put my Morpheus up for auction tonight or tomorrow, you'll see it say "The only 6" super articulated Morpheus out there!" regardless of how many other customizers have made one. They aren't selling theirs, and I won't be telling EBayers there could be others out there. All of my 'awesome stupendout talent' (hehe, that was for you Kirky), my shameless promotion, my 'tony little' hype, all of that will remain in my auctions. After all, 300+ buyers can't be wrong! *bows*
Okay, maybe I'm just a glutton for punishment. Or naive. I'm certainly taking a huge chance here, but I have faith that the inherent class that Fwooshers have will prevail.Kirk wrote:
Posting with arrogance and shunning other customizers/customsThat's right, you can actually play with this figure! The paint won't rub off, and she's not a fragile "display-only" figure like you see all too often with custom figures.
Posting WITHOUT arrogance or shunning other customizers/customsThat's right, you can actually play with this figure! The paint won't rub off, and she is made for not only display, but for heavy play.
I'm not sure who your "I don't even hide my recipe's" are pertaining to, but as you can see in the Modeller's gallery I post my recipe's as well and if I don't post it the same day then I will come back and post it.
I've heard street hustlers use the same tactics to sell there products and they didn't have to take a Marketing class to do so.
Simply out: Despite the fact that this became a fight (in an inappropriate forum), there were some really interesting, valid points brought up by everybody regarding how we promote our eBay auctions and, by extension, ourselves.
I've put quite a bit of thought into eBay promotions myself, but it's been fairly neglected as a discussion subject here at the Fwoosh. But the potential benefits to such a discussion here in the appropriate forum should be obvious, yes? New eBay Customizers appear everyday, and if the Fwoosh is the first, best community resource for customizing on the net, it stands to follow that The eBay Forum should be as well.
A fancy way of saying the Discussion is still worth having. I hope.
So I want to hear from everybody.
I'm calling all of you out. The eBay Old Guard (Cal, Crainius, Jin, Levit, Lowe, 4p4thy ink, etc)...the New Generation (Kirk, Johima, Darth Leon, A.G., moleman, etc)...everybody. This includes the â€œpart-timeâ€