Savage Crucible: 6"-7" Fantasy Figures

[Night Wolf]

Lucky for me the human figures are a complete pass, gimme lizard and fish people and that octopus Cthulhu looking guy plz

Fish people are gonna be great with Merman

And Aquaman, could be his villians.

[Grins]

Lucky for me the human figures are a complete pass, gimme lizard and fish people and that octopus Cthulhu looking guy plz

Fish people are gonna be great with Merman

And Aquaman, could be his villians.

Mezco Nemo.

[Robogeek28]

Only 10 more days until this kickstarter ends, and they're at $401,000 right now.

[Megazarak]

Noticed that they were on a show tonight and they announced that tomorrow they will officially include all the wave 1 stretch goals with their respective figures, and will release updated renders to the KS tomorrow. Their idea was to better show off the full products so people can make more informed decisions of whether or not they want certain characters.

They don't have many stretch goals for wave 2 and I don't think any for wave 3. In light of this wave 1 update it'd be nice if they gave some to the others. I like the idea of the Harbinger but I just don't care for his odd asymmetry. A spare foot (either, really, or both if they're feeling generous) would be nice to have.

[Robogeek28]

Noticed that they were on a show tonight and they announced that tomorrow they will officially include all the wave 1 stretch goals with their respective figures, and will release updated renders to the KS tomorrow. Their idea was to better show off the full products so people can make more informed decisions of whether or not they want certain characters.

They don't have many stretch goals for wave 2 and I don't think any for wave 3. In light of this wave 1 update it'd be nice if they gave some to the others. I like the idea of the Harbinger but I just don't care for his odd asymmetry. A spare foot (either, really, or both if they're feeling generous) would be nice to have.

Do you by chance have a link to that show?

[Ziero01]

Wow, seeing all those stretch goals included with their sets actually makes them feel *more* underwhelming. This Kickstarter has been fantastic and the figures look great, but their stretch goals, and the way they spread them out has been the least exciting thing about it by far. I almost want to order less of those accessory packs now, seeing as it means I'll just have even more extra parts rolling around storage bins that will never get used. The heads and limbs should've been included with each specific figure, not crammed into a weapon set.

I'll be honest, I almost forgot this KS existed, it's been so dead quiet for so long. I know about the Kickstarter Curve, but this one has had no hype at all through that middle section. And we still don't have physical painted protos of the figures yet, which is almost concerning. I'm not gonna drop my pledge or anything, but I haven't seen a single reason to up it since this thing launched.

[christianpyro]

Wow, seeing all those stretch goals included with their sets actually makes them feel *more* underwhelming. This Kickstarter has been fantastic and the figures look great, but their stretch goals, and the way they spread them out has been the least exciting thing about it by far. I almost want to order less of those accessory packs now, seeing as it means I'll just have even more extra parts rolling around storage bins that will never get used. The heads and limbs should've been included with each specific figure, not crammed into a weapon set.

I'll be honest, I almost forgot this KS existed, it's been so dead quiet for so long. I know about the Kickstarter Curve, but this one has had no hype at all through that middle section. And we still don't have physical painted protos of the figures yet, which is almost concerning. I'm not gonna drop my pledge or anything, but I haven't seen a single reason to up it since this thing launched.

There have been painted prototypes of the figures shown, but perhaps not every figure. Some of them were sent to youtubers to review. I know the painted versions I saw got me to up my pledge.

And I agree with you about the Kickstarter not being that exciting. I pledged, kinda forgot about it, an then reviewed my pledge again this week. I think the 4H did it better by revealing one new figure at a time. It kept excitement up, and even got me to pledge significantly more than I really should have in retrospect. It was like a month long event. I get that Savage Crucible is trying to do things different and more upfront, but it kinda hurt them in a way.

I appreciate that he has the wave 1 tooling done, and things are on their way, and "should" deliver much sooner than other Kickstarters (I've had to wait 2 plus years for other kickstarters). It adds confidence to this Kickstarter. But I wondered if that was a factor in keeping him from adding items to the figures themselves, and instead throwing everything into weapons packs. Things are too far along to make too many changes.

If that's the case, I get it. But I would have thought at least character specific bare shins and fore-arms would have been the exception. Especially with the Konclusive figure. I assume these weapons packs are going to be available elsewhere, but the Konclusive won't be (for the most part). So people will be buying parts for a figure they can't get their hands on.

It's no skin off my back. I ordered the wave one weapons packs anyway, but I did find it odd. Most of the stretch goals didn't do much for me.

[Reefer Shark]

I'm still hyped for this project. The fairly constant stream of youtube reviews on the paint masters kept my interest pretty high, and the fact that this type of fantasy stuff is my favorite probably plays a part in that too. I was hyped enough to get off my ass and sell a bunch of stuff to fund it! lol

I agree that the unlocks haven't been very exciting though. They didn't really bring anything to the table for me personally. The extra heads are probably pretty cool, but hard to tell from the B&W renders. That throne would be great, but the STL file pretty much does me no good. Cool idea, but I don't think the STL file should be considered a tier.

I'm still 100% in, and debating getting a couple extra barbarians so I can utilize the extra armor/weapons from the packs. The last video by J Hernandez really sells the Royal Guard!

[christianpyro]

I'm still hyped for this project.

Don't get me wrong, I am too. I'm looking forward to the figures. I just meant the Kickstarter itself wasn't that exciting. There hasn't been a lot of reason for me to check back on the page or the results. Other Kickstarters I would check daily or hourly. But after wave 3 was funded I kinda stopped. I might check once a week.

[Ziero01]

There have been painted prototypes of the figures shown, but perhaps not every figure. Some of them were sent to youtubers to review. I know the painted versions I saw got me to up my pledge.

And I agree with you about the Kickstarter not being that exciting. I pledged, kinda forgot about it, an then reviewed my pledge again this week. I think the 4H did it better by revealing one new figure at a time. It kept excitement up, and even got me to pledge significantly more than I really should have in retrospect. It was like a month long event. I get that Savage Crucible is trying to do things different and more upfront, but it kinda hurt them in a way.

I know the painted masters are out there, which makes it even more mind boggling that they haven't done simple photo shoots of em to update the renders with the real thing. I get they didn't want to add too much in the way of new figures or product, but updating each figure's image on the main page would've been a great way to release consistent updates without relying on the need for new products.

And while I was trying to avoid direct comparisons myself, I agree that the 4H made their Kickstarters feel like a month long event, and encouraged a large amount of community interaction and excitement throughout their entire runs. Of course they had their official forums at the time (still salty over that debacle) which helped build a lot of interest and keep things hyped up. But they also had special figures made for each one, which resulted in a lot of attention and energy from fans. With this KS, it's like they stopped caring once they hit their goal, and it really does hurt the project as a whole.

I'm still 100% in, and debating getting a couple extra barbarians so I can utilize the extra armor/weapons from the packs. The last video by J Hernandez really sells the Royal Guard!

The Barbarians are actually another issue I have with this Kickstarter, or rather the lack of them. I can see why they didn't want to do a Slate Barbarian (though I feel with one of those Skull heads from the accessory pack, it won't have looked bad), but there was no reason not to have a basic Savage Barbarian figure listed. The Barbarian Accessory packs have tons of great extra heads, but I have nothing to use them with unless I buy extra multiple full priced Barbarian characters. If they had some basic Barbarians, I would've easily grabbed a few of them, but as is I don't even think I'll get the barbarian accessory packs.

[Robogeek28]

Wow, seeing all those stretch goals included with their sets actually makes them feel *more* underwhelming. This Kickstarter has been fantastic and the figures look great, but their stretch goals, and the way they spread them out has been the least exciting thing about it by far. I almost want to order less of those accessory packs now, seeing as it means I'll just have even more extra parts rolling around storage bins that will never get used. The heads and limbs should've been included with each specific figure, not crammed into a weapon set.

Gonna hafta agree about the stretch goals.

I'm also not happy that I have to get an accessory pack just to get two different sets of lizard forearms and shins. They should've gone in the same package with the character they're meant for.

[Megazarak]

I actually didn't read the stretch goals too carefully and I thought the extra heads would be coming with the figures themselves, but I guess that was wrong. I looked down to the Jaeger listing and his extra head and hood do come the figure directly. Very strange how it's being handled. And the dilophosaurus head (and the lizard frilled lizard heads) not having an articulated jaw is also an annoyance and oddity. Things like extra tail for Ko'Mo and maybe even feet so he could be a proper non half lizard with his extra head would also seem to make sense. I'd actually say instead of the bare forearms we could have gotten more tails (that comes from someone who probably wouldn't be using those, while I'm sure others will), including Nin's armoured one, if that's the route they wanted to go with those. I like the idea of lizard (and fish) people, but I'm still not sure how I want to go about this.

I'll also keep complaining about the Harbinger. Get another shoe or take that one off, you goof.

Edit: Just went looking for turnaround renders or prototypes of the accessory pack 1 armour and read that the skull helmet will only fit on Ko'Mo. Considering there's only one sku with that head and a ton of actual snouted lizard heads, I have to question that logic. I thought for sure it would sit over that one savage looking head with that same pack.

[twehner31]

Love this KS!
But do have to agree with the criticisms re: not including head and skin pieces with the corresponding figures.

The creator seemed to address this choice a bit in his appearance in the 3POA podcast. He said he never liked having named characters come with extra heads as consumers would then have to buy 2 in order to display both versions. His solution though seems to be to include those alternate heads in head packs- which ironically only makes matters worse for the consumer. Now you gotta purchase 2 figures plus an additional character pack in order to be able to display both versions.

Kind of wonder if that was not perhaps intentional. I myself was on the fence about the Konclusive Lizard. Ultimately decided to add that fig after his alternate pieces were unlocked in that wave’s 2nd character pack, which I had already pledged for anyway.

Odd to me that the corresponding head/skin pieces are placed in the character packs, while random accessories are placed with named figures: the potion bottle with Nim & the water bladder with KoMo. Unless of course the goal is to get backers to grab more figs/packs. Guess this worked, on me anyway.

Overall though I must say I do prefer the approach of this KS- fewer figs total and tooling already done on Wave 1. Getting figures in hand sooner is a major plus. Also understanding that the majority of backers have limited funds carries a ton of weight with me. So not losing out on sales by offering too many figs all at once (actually competing against your own line) is very much appreciated.

[Ziero01]

The creator seemed to address this choice a bit in his appearance in the 3POA podcast. He said he never liked having named characters come with extra heads as consumers would then have to buy 2 in order to display both versions. His solution though seems to be to include those alternate heads in head packs- which ironically only makes matters worse for the consumer. Now you gotta purchase 2 figures plus an additional character pack in order to be able to display both versions.

If that's the reasoning for not including the extra character specific heads with said characters, that's some offensively bad logic. Because now, if I want to use all those extra heads that bloat up those accessory packs I want, I *still* need to buy extra versions of those characters. This certainly doesn't fix the issue, and if anything makes it annoying for people who don't want specific characters (i.e. me, who will now have a ton of extra heads and limbs clogging up part bins).

Personally, I feel including extra, generic heads is a *good* thing to add to named characters. It allows people who want to buy multiples to have a way to display the named character along side similarly dressed generic characters. Mythic Legions does this a lot and it's a great way to encourage people to buy multiples of named figures, or at the very least give people an option if they don't like a specific head.

Personally, if I were running this KS, I would have bundled the various character specific extras, the bare limbs, the alt heads, the extra tails etc, all as specific stretch goals. So once you reached a goal, a figure would instantly gain extra value and be better suited to buy multiples of due to increased display options. I would have done a similar thing with all the little trinket pieces, adding them as bundled goals to the different accessory packs, instead of trickling them out one at a time.

The way these stretch goals were handled was just....very poor, to be polite. Instead of acting as added encouragement to buy more figures, they end up feeling more of a burden to me as I'm getting tons of extra parts I have no use for. Everything else about this Project has been outstanding, but the stretch goal decisions have really soured me on the whole thing.

[domu]

The way these stretch goals were handled was just....very poor, to be polite. Instead of acting as added encouragement to buy more figures, they end up feeling more of a burden to me as I'm getting tons of extra parts I have no use for. Everything else about this Project has been outstanding, but the stretch goal decisions have really soured me on the whole thing.

I really appreciate what they've done with the stretch goals.
By design, they're not really meant to encourage you to buy more figures. William Robert Post has been very transparent about not wanting to offer an overwhelming amount of figures that would pressure customers into dropping a huge amount of money at one time. Every new figure also means slower delivery of the figures, something else he wants to avoid.

The stretch goals are just value add-ons. If someone doesn't want them, they're not costing them anything. If they don't want the extra bits, I don't know, just give them away?

I do feel that the campaign should have been 30 days, instead of 45, as the middle really dragged.
I feel the thinking behind it was well-intentioned, to give customers plenty of time to figure out what they wanted, and budget for it, especially given that there would be no backerkit period that many backers have become accustomed to. But, I sort of feel that for most everyone, if they can't get their funds inline in a month, they're not going to be helped out by an extra couple of weeks.